The Matrix : Revelations ... err Revolutions [SPOILER]

[Gabriel]

OK, I haven't seen the movie yet, but I know what is going to happen. Anyone who ever read, or at least WAS read the Bible growing up, knows where this story is going. I am the father, I created all that you see, and feel and hear. You are the chosen one, the proverbial "prodigal son" You have been created for one reason, to inspire hope in those which "I" created, and to give them direction. Little did you know that I instilled them with evil and contempt, and you are going to willingly, give up all of this, just to say that you died for them, and took away all of it. Guess what, it is still here, and it is the nature of man. The Matrix = Birth; Reloaded = Life ; Revolutions = Death, has anyone ever wondered about the word "Trinity" since they watched this movie. It is definitely much more blatant that the Lord of the Rings, but the premise is still there.


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[WesM63]

Hey gabe,
I havn't seen it either, but think i'm goning to have to just because of how reloaded ended. For some reason reloaded wasn't that good of a moive, i liked the first one better. Oh well, can't win em all ;)

[Gabriel]

Everyone liked the first one better, but if you look at it, in the historical and psychological sense, the Matrix as all about self realization, self awareness, and the beginnings of a "bigger picture" mentality; going from zygote to sentient? Birth.. Reloaded is about life, the choices we make, the consequences of our actions, the various paths that we take, "irrevocably human" but we still choose "the path not taken" Walden and Whitman (those literary people know) Life.. Revolutions can only be the culmination of all of that. He will die for us, (us=Zion) There can honestly be only one outcome, and I am honestly so glad that this got depicted in a theaterical sense. Again with the Trinity, Father=Architect Son=Neo Holy Spirit=Morpheus The father who knows exactly where he is in the big picture, the Son who helps all those around him, but wonders what the "big picture" is, and the Holy Spirit, the one that believes to the extent of sacrificing himself for the One. Death.. In all honesty, I think the story is brilliant, although unoriginal. How many movies nowadays can push these types of stories, and still sell out theaters.

[Gabriel]

Damn, we really need a movie review forum

Just so I can feel better about my rants

[notoriousformula]

HEY! I saw Revolutions today.. :D

[Think]

I wouldn't place this as a revolutionary concept either. As a matter of fact, the entire trilogy is rather obscure and awkward.

It seems that the silver screen does not give the theory justification or that the theory itself doesn't clarify itself.

Anyway, this is one box set that I will not buy for my collection. I did enjoy it but it was rather boring. Very repetitous and Americanized superhero worship.

Bring on Lord of the Rings!!:P

[notoriousformula]

no no its a very good movie and a concept..i'm goin to watch it again :) and definitely buying the Trilogy box :D

[Think]

I should be a little more clear on this; I enjoyed the trilogy and I did enjoy the final one as well but to look into it too deeply is just a total waste of my time...it's not a new concept per say...just a re-clothed one.

But it was fun to watch. Way better then that Kill Bill garbage.

[ralf_c]

loved the first movie and hated the last two. thats just me though.

if you guys wanna see something that will blow you away go rent hayao miyazaki's "spirited away" and watch it with your kids (those of you who have kids that is).

[tripodal]

I just got back from #3 AND i think it was the shiznit.
It was much better than the second... by far. More story which balanced it very well.

As far as all of the relevance to old times and all that is absolutly true. but i also see a "homecoming"

The machines were created by man, and broke away. And later to make peace. You might relate it to a father son conflict.

Tho the humans arent necessarly a typical father they hold the charistics of the role, wiser, thoughtful, forward thinking.

The machines were beligerant, strong, headstrong, single minded, and "always right"

Specifically the gave an overwhelming beligerance to the machines in the final scene, as well as conceding, that they needed the help of a human.

or is it just 1am?

[Think]

Originally posted by ralf_c
loved the first movie and hated the last two. thats just me though.

if you guys wanna see something that will blow you away go rent hayao miyazaki's "spirited away" and watch it with your kids (those of you who have kids that is).

I totally agree ralf_c, me and the kids watched it a few weeks ago and again this past Saturday - fantastic movie:)

[Gabriel]

Mmmm, if church was that fun every week, I would go Saturday AND Sunday. That was a great finale to a great series. Those critics and fanboys who are ragging on it don't know anything. I consider myself a movie lover, not just someone who loves a few movies. I definitely can find merit in almost any movie, and I didn't have to try and find merit for this one. I left the theater physically and mentally exhausted, which is great, because it means I was totally imersed in that film. I can see why "Matrix fans" would dislike it, but I can also see why the die hard LotR book fans didn't like that film either. Leave your expectaitions at the door, as I do with most films, and enjoy it for what it is. I loved it. Can't wait for the DVD, and the MMORPG.

[Think]

Leave your expectaitions at the door, as I do with most films, and enjoy it for what it is. I loved it

I agree:)

[tripodal]

I dont think I could put it into words better than that!
Is that why i never hate a movie :)

[WackyComputer]

I wonder why Neo never jumped inside of anyone like he did to Smith in the first movie?

[killernoodle]

Probably cause if he did, there would be a lot more of the other agents too, not solving anything at all.

[notoriousformula]

Originally posted by killernoodle
Probably cause if he did, there would be a lot more of the other agents too, not solving anything at all.

free agents like Smith, can't control them..eh?

[Player0]

I saw it last night, and I was very disappointed. I liked 1 & 2, but the third seemed rushed together.

Why didnt the original lady for the Oracle return? I thought it was shot all at the same time? If they did it on purpose, it was a bad move. If they had to replace her, they shouldnt have made it so corny.

It went from a Matrix movie to a really awkward action shooting movie. There arent any real fights in the moving even worth mentioning.

I did like the open ending, but they did NOTHING to explain the huge plot hole that is Neo having powers in the real world. I found this to be absolutely ridiculous. Matrix was cool because it was a fairly beleivable situation, you walked out of the movie wondering if it could be possible. ANd superpowers were cool in the computer world. But as soon as they moved to the 'real' world, it ruined the movie imho.

The 16 year old kid saving the ship thing was annoying. There were a ton of really cheesy 3 minute parts that should have just been cut out. THe whole rocket launcher thing was pretty silly. What happened to the main characters?

I know what they were going for, but I really think that the movie should have been planned a little better.

[WackyComputer]

Why didnt the original lady for the Oracle return?

She died.

I did like the open ending, but they did NOTHING to explain the huge plot hole that is Neo having powers in the real world.

Neo was the one, he had powers in the matrix as well as powers over the machines. I feel that the matrix and the machines consciousness was one in the same.

[Gabriel]

Neo was ultimately connected to "the source" , ergoe "the one" He contained "the code" that was supposed to be brought back to the source, to refill Zion, to set up the dominoes once again. He was, in fact, part of the source, and thus, was plugged in to the source, therefore, he could see without seeing, and do what he did in the third movie. I think it made complete sense, and, the Oracle's plight was well explained in Enter the Matrix. She gave her self to the Merovingian for the life of a child (although we didn't know who this child was until Revolutions) but at the same time, was the child she was refering to the little Indian girl, or Smith? When he referred to her as "Mom" I got some severe goosebumps. Again, I can't really understand why people were disappointed with this movie, we knew it was going to end, I mean, it's no Star Trek. They did a great job of tying it all up, without ruining it for the next run of young writers eager to test it's literary holes. Similar to another epic story I read/saw when I was younger. Narnia, Middle Earth, Tatooine, Zion, Federation, Jerusalem. 6 different audience acclaimed ways of telling the same story that has been told through every medium we have today. Now if we can just get them to do Narnia on the big screen, we will be set.