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mdzcpa
06-26-2002, 04:29 PM
The vital shots:
http://www.liquidninjas.com/mdzcpa/ForumPics/Tbred2200/Picture%20001.jpg

http://www.liquidninjas.com/mdzcpa/ForumPics/Tbred2200/Picture%20003.jpg

http://www.liquidninjas.com/mdzcpa/ForumPics/Tbred2200/Picture%20005.jpg

I should have it installed under my Swiftech MCW462-U water-block in a few hours with some results using a straight water set up.

Notice the L1 bridges are not cut and the L3 1,3,5 bridges are. I will be connecting these L3 bridges straight away and popping it on my KX7.

I'll post back with results in a while (if everything goes according to plan that is...cross your fingers).

mdzcpa
06-27-2002, 12:35 AM
Okay...an update.

First off, unlocking the chip took me longer than I thought. Not sure what my problem was....just didn't ahve the touch tonight.

Any way, after a few no boots and I finally got the bridges right. And when I did just it booted right up.

Thanks for the that Guide :)

Out of the gate I knew I had just found a reason to get that pelt I've been eyeballing. The chips are smokin' just as everyone says and heat is obviously the limiting factor with these puppies. And throw in that it has been in the mid 90s F here in Detroit all week, and ambients are between 29 and 30 with the A/C on.

The best it would muster after about 45 minutes of tinkering is:
http://www.liquidninjas.com/mdzcpa/ForumPics/Tbred2200/tbred2008b.JPG



This was with 1.85v, idle at 44 annd loaded at 47....that's way hot. I need to get my water temp probe hooked back up so I can judge my efficiency a little more.

I know that with some more reasonable ambient temps, and some fine tuning of the voltage choices, there is plenty more in it with a straight water set up. I'll stay at it and keep you posted.

I should have things broken in and tweaked up over the next day.

dicki
06-27-2002, 09:13 AM
how come they run so hot? i thought they went to the 0.13 micron process to lower the voltage and reduce heat... maybe we need to start experimenting with less voltage on these chips...

mdzcpa
06-27-2002, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by dicki
how come they run so hot? i thought they went to the 0.13 micron process to lower the voltage and reduce heat... maybe we need to start experimenting with less voltage on these chips...


Yep...I'll be trying that when i get home from work today:)

They run so hot because the die space has shrunken and reduces the available amount of surface area to conduct the heat away. So although voltages are down, mhz is up, the dies size is down, and the net effect is HOT.

Time for pelt:)

NorthernYankee
06-27-2002, 11:25 AM
That is one of the main reasons P4's run so cool. They have a die area about twice as large as an XP so it has a lot more surface area. And they also do a lot less IPC. I think when Barton Come out with its increased cache which means an increased Die size we will see a nice improvement.

--NY