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notoriousformula
09-14-2003, 08:35 PM
hello all... network N00b here and i'm looking for a good Home networking reference site, something easy to understand :P

regards :)

Synthohol
09-14-2003, 08:53 PM
ask away, i would be happy to share what i know :)

Snowman
09-14-2003, 11:17 PM
Have a look at this one :cool3:

http://www.pcnineoneone.com/howto/hmnetwk1.html

notoriousformula
09-15-2003, 02:14 AM
thanks Synth, snowman :)..

1) run a game server without enabling DMZ.. how to define ports/port range to the router for the game server.?

2)Running Bullet proof server(G6) on one machine.. and nobody can log-in :( i have port 21 forwarded...is there anything else i need to try except for the DMZ option? Read all BP help files..no use..

Kabooka
09-15-2003, 10:21 AM
Networking Resource (http://www.practicallynetworked.com/)


What router are you running? - port 21 is typically used for ftp

notoriousformula
09-15-2003, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by Kabooka
Networking Resource (http://www.practicallynetworked.com/)


What router are you running? - port 21 is typically used for ftp

Linkys BEFSR41 ver 2.0 and yep yep BulletProof is an FTP server.

Player0
09-15-2003, 03:21 PM
Never use DMZ as a rule of thumb. It's like not even having a firewall.

Make sure you are forwarding port 21 to the firewall to the right IP address, say FTP is running on 192.168.0.10, make sure you forward port 21 to 192.168.0.10. Make sure you have the little enable box checked (a screenshot of this port forwarding screen might help).

Make sure that your clients have PASV mode DISABLED when trying to connect to you. A lot of people enable this for firewall compatibility, but it could cause issues.

Failing that, temporarily turn on anonymous access and see if peopl ecan get on that way.

Kabooka
09-15-2003, 03:27 PM
I don't know that much about bulletproof, but it sounds like your security isn't set up - at the minimum you would need to allow annonymus login for view.

Depending on the game requirements, if it has a single port requirement, you would add that port in the applicaiton page of your router setup and point it to the ip number of your server. Much the same as you did for your ftp server

If the game requires a range of ports, you should have a page that will allow you to enter the trigger port and associate the range to that trigger, again you would point that to the IP of the server

In either case your game documentation should let you know what ports to use.

notoriousformula
09-15-2003, 03:31 PM
here is a screenshot:

tell me if this ok?

EDIT: how about i check what port(ports) UT 2003 runs on and then open that set of ports? will that work :)

Kabooka
09-15-2003, 04:07 PM
Found this ...

link to the article (http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,1154785,00.asp)

Player0
09-15-2003, 04:37 PM
Port Trigguring is not usually needed for hosting games.

UT uses a default port of 7777 (you can find these in the UT server settings).

It's only necessary to do a port forwarding of port 7777 to 192.168.0.xxx (whatever your server is).

Port trigguring from port 77xx to 27960 or whatever is a HUGE firewall hole, and is unnecessary to open up all 20,000 ports when all you need is 1 port 7777.

You can open individual ports, such as 27960 for Q3, 28880 for Wolfenstein, or whatever. Or use 7780 for your UT web administration. Or use 7790 for CTF and 7810 for DeathMatch.

I've never, ever, needed to use port trigguring for anything I've ever done. It's need is rare, and its not much more secure than running DMZ. Say you have some unknown trojan porking port 12345 and you open up 7000-27000. All of the sudden, the trojean can open port 12345 because you just left it wide open.

The firewall settings look fine NF. You might try to reboot the router, sometimes that makes things work. But so far, it looks like you have a configureation error somewhere else. Is Bulletproof bound to listen on the right IP/Domain?

notoriousformula
09-15-2003, 05:03 PM
thanks for that nice explanation Player0, kabooka :).. i tried rebooting the router, now use.. here is the BP server log when i try to login with IE or WS FTP PRO:

9/15/2003 12:58:19 PM - FTP Server On-line : IP(s) 192.168.1.100, on port 21
9/15/2003 12:58:21 PM - FTP Server opened to new connections.
(000001) 9/15/2003 12:58:24 PM - (not logged in) (192.168.1.1) > connected to ip : 192.168.1.100
(000001) 9/15/2003 12:58:24 PM - (not logged in) (192.168.1.1) > sending welcome message.
(000001) 9/15/2003 12:58:24 PM - (not logged in) (192.168.1.1) > 220 BulletProof FTP Server ready ...
(000001) 9/15/2003 12:58:24 PM - (not logged in) (192.168.1.1) > USER notorious
(000001) 9/15/2003 12:58:24 PM - (not logged in) (192.168.1.1) > 331 Password required for notorious.
(000001) 9/15/2003 12:58:24 PM - (not logged in) (192.168.1.1) > PASS ********
(000001) 9/15/2003 12:58:24 PM - notorious (192.168.1.1) > logged in.
(000001) 9/15/2003 12:58:24 PM - notorious (192.168.1.1) > 230 User notorious logged in.
(000001) 9/15/2003 12:58:24 PM - notorious (192.168.1.1) > SYST
(000001) 9/15/2003 12:58:24 PM - notorious (192.168.1.1) > 215 UNIX Type: L8
(000001) 9/15/2003 12:58:24 PM - notorious (192.168.1.1) > FEAT
(000001) 9/15/2003 12:58:24 PM - notorious (192.168.1.1) > 500 Unknown command.
(000001) 9/15/2003 12:58:24 PM - notorious (192.168.1.1) > PWD
(000001) 9/15/2003 12:58:24 PM - notorious (192.168.1.1) > 257 "/" is current directory.
(000001) 9/15/2003 12:58:24 PM - notorious (192.168.1.1) > CWD /
(000001) 9/15/2003 12:58:24 PM - notorious (192.168.1.1) > asked to change directory : 'C:\Documents and Settings\Arthur chase\Desktop\Current\ -> C:\Documents and Settings\Arthur chase\Desktop\Current\' --> Access allowed.
(000001) 9/15/2003 12:58:24 PM - notorious (192.168.1.1) > 250 CWD command successful. "/" is current directory.
(000001) 9/15/2003 12:58:24 PM - notorious (192.168.1.1) > PWD
(000001) 9/15/2003 12:58:24 PM - notorious (192.168.1.1) > 257 "/" is current directory.
(000001) 9/15/2003 12:58:24 PM - notorious (192.168.1.1) > TYPE A
(000001) 9/15/2003 12:58:24 PM - notorious (192.168.1.1) > 200 Type set to A.
(000001) 9/15/2003 12:58:24 PM - notorious (192.168.1.1) > PASV
(000001) 9/15/2003 12:58:24 PM - notorious (192.168.1.1) > 227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,1,100,158,189).
(000001) 9/15/2003 12:58:26 PM - notorious (192.168.1.1) > POPORT 192,168,1,1,19,138
(000001) 9/15/2003 12:58:26 PM - notorious (192.168.1.1) > 500 Unknown command.

another news: just recieved my Sapphire 9800NP retail box...wooohooo! :D :D

Player0
09-15-2003, 06:46 PM
NF,

That error log doesnt show any errors, except that you are still tying to use PASV mode which may not work. Disable PASV mode on WS_FTP and then try.