How to measure Delta T

[LiquidRulez]

Can someone please tell me the best way to measure the delta t of my just milled Cu waterblock??
i get great temps but i want to know the delta t rating

[dicki]

welcome to the board :)

it's good to see someone else making thier own blocks i thought i was on my own for a while there! what kind of design are you using? maze or cup? and what kind of mounting did you go for?

anyway... as i understand it delta T is the difference in temperature between the water and the CPU, the lower this is the better, and it gives an excellent indication of the efficiency of your block and how good your mounting mechanism is. so the measuremenets you need to know are water temperature and cpu temperature take one from the other and thats delta T

i beleive P0 uses a digital doc for temp measurments, some people have special inline thermometers, others just pop a thermometer into thier resovoir

dicki

[LiquidRulez]

thanks for the welcome

im using neither a cup or a maze design.....its kind of hard to explain what it looks like, i have pics of it but i really dont want to post them until my patent goes through. id hate for someone to steal my design and make a bunch of money off of my extensive research and developement. but you can be sure that when i can show it off without fear of loosing the design idea to someone else, i will definately post pics.
lets just say that IMHO, my design is more efficent than anything else on the market.
my temps will be better once i get a pump that doesnt put out 200 watts by itself.i had to can the heater core for now and have use a bong to keep up with the heat that it puts out(and it barely does that!)
my design seems to work well with both high flow rate and low flow rate.
as far as the mounting goes, im using another design of my own that eliminates the need for motherboard mounting holes all together and is extremely easy to mount for the novice.....idiotproof.

i cant wait until i can show it off. its really difficult not to jusy post the pics without waiting on the legal protection of the design. but ive read too many posts of how other people posted pics and how someone else stole there idea.

[Player0]

Sounds interesting...cant wait to see it :)

[Old sptw]

Hi LiquidRulez,

Welcome a board :) can't wait to see too :)

[lechumbl]

Hi LiquidRulez,

WELCOME :D :D :D to Liquid Ninjas.

Will be waiting for pics as soon as the legal stuff is done.

Take care.........

[dicki]

well you've fuelled my curiosity thats for certain!

what pump are you using? i can highly recommend the eheim ones if you havn't discovered them yet they are excellent.

hummm... neither cup nor maze? hummm... i have a little trouble imagining anything like that... it's got to be a varient on one of them... and i'm not sure you can patent varients... well not in the UK anyway... good luck anyway and i look forward to seeing it when the legal stuff is sorted out :)

that mounting mechanism sounds fascinating as well! i havn't seen any truly good mounting designs yet, my favorite is the 4 bolt method (with a rigid back plate to get some real clamping power ;) ) but it still isn't great... that definatly sounds like a patantable idea, good luck to you

dicki

[LiquidRulez]

i am using a Little Giant 3E-12N pump for the time being but am going to switch over to a Beckett 320GPH as soon as its shipped to me.
as far as not being able to patent varients of designs..if that were the case then there would be only one type and maker of everything manufactured. what i am getting is a design patent as far as i can figure.and that means that it can have certain simularities to other existing products as long as the principal itself isnt patented( which we all know that there are many manufacturers of waterblocks, so that couldnt be the case).

as for a breif description of the design..........it uses a 2" x 2" x 3/4" piece of stock that has approx. 8 square inches of surface area that likes high flow as well as low flow, and also incorperates my own design in whole, which virtually eliminates boundary layers. incorperated in the design is a one peice rad/pump/res that fits in the same area as a decent sized heater core so hardcore w/c' ing and newbies will definately not have to worry about getting a larger case just to fit the W/C setup in it. it was designed using a mid tower case for fitting.
i think everyone will be very impressed when i can post pics.............just have a little patience:D

[dicki]

i allways understood that patents (in the UK anyway) required an "imaginative leap" but thats beside the point and as you point out they must be fairly slack on this point or there would be hardly any patents and only one manufacturer making any product...

how long do you need to wait on patant approval? can't you stick a patent pending sticker on the product and show us anyway? i know i'm impatient but i am really interested to see what you've come up with, and that all in one rad/res/pump unit sounds... interesting... what abou tthe heat from the pump? why not have a combined res/rad and seperate pump?

dicki

[mdzcpa]

Hi LiquidRulez,

I little late to the party but welcome aboard anyhow:)

I'm also very interested to see what you have designed. Keep us posted.

[LiquidRulez]

i have to complete drawing the specs on the designs and deliver them to my lawyer so he can get the legal papers started. and considering that im constantly thinking of new additions and changes to the designs, its kind of hard to complete them when im still adding to it. i want the design to be the absolute best there is on the market and i want to make it so that no one can make any improvements to the design because of the fact that it was designed perfectly and there will be no improvements to be made. and also im waitng on a heavier duty mill because i only have a generic mini mill and it lacks the function and stability that i require to complete the pump head.it s a combo mill/lathe/drill press and i need the lathe in order to machine the pumphead correctly.
when i give the plans to my lawyer and he sends them off, thats it. i cant make anymore modifications to the product or it wont be protected or legally mine to sell. im having one problem...i cant seems to find a suitable AC motor that has the minute power consumption that im looking for. im looking into DC continuios duty motors as the drive source. possibly even a reduction of size in the pump/res size is in the works too. not a mag drive?? you ask. well, just wait until you see what ive come up with. its going to turn the watercooling industry on its head!......
how an adjustable flow mini pump that puts out as well or better than pumps 6 times its mass(ehiem) and whisper quiet . hows that sound ?
finally watercooling will be a truly quiet replacement for air cooling.

i dont mean to sound like a pompous ass, but my design is the best as a standalone waterblock and/or a complete compact watercooling system for any sized pc without extranious mods to the system prior to installation.
keep up the patience guys.you and everyone you know will be happy to open up your wallets when you finally do see it.:D

oh and as far as heat being and issue......this is not a problem whatsoever. my design transfers less than 40% of heat tranfer to water due to wattage output, than ANY other pump on the market. youll see fellas in good due time!

[lechumbl]

Hi LiquidRulez,

Do we get a group discount for buying several?

Take care......

[dicki]

yeah! and how about shipping to the uk?

[LiquidRulez]

first question...........i dont know yet. we'll see when things get rolling. but more than likely ..yes group discounts

second question.........if you're paying for shipping why would i care about sending it.:D