hmmmm.....

[notoriousformula]

hey guys, i wanna buy a new comp with athlon xp barton core and ppl tell me that all bartons are based on the same core, so if you buy the 2500+ core or the 3000+, its the same thing, you call always change the multipliers,, hmmm is that true??

if that is true, can i really O/C 2500+ to 3000+ standards??

or maybe its worth waiting for the new hammer cores with 1MB cache and 400 FSB???

please advise....

with kindest regards.

notor:P

[notoriousformula]

and whats the best mobo for O/C-ing athlon bartons :confused:

thanks

[mdzcpa]

The 2500's are indeed good overclockers and use the same multiplier as the XP 3200. The only difference is the 2500 runs at 166mhz, and the 3200 runs at 200mhz.

Does this mean that the 2500 is really just a 3200 set to run at a lower bus speed?.....no. Although the 2500s are great overclockers, they are not validated to run at 3200 speeds at stock voltages. I've had a few 2500 Bartons I've used to build client rigs, and all have them have been able to hit 3200 speeds, but it always required at least a little extra voltage.

All that said, I think an XP 2500 barton makes a great choice. The price is exceptional and the ability to up the multiplier and overclock it easily are great features. Adding the voltage is not a big deal if you have a good HSF.

I've found that the NF7 is a great board (and my favorite) for running with the Barton. The new 2.0 revision handles both the 166mhz and 200mhz Bartons very well. Be aware of one thing with the NF7 and the Barton 2500 though. With the current official BIOS, the NF7 will recognize the 2500 to be a 3200! This is because they have the same multipliers and there is a quirk in the BIOS. Now, before you get all excited, understand that you will likely need to add some voltage to get the thing stable at 3200 speeds even though it pops up as a 3200 automatically on the NF7 that way. (I've built two of these rigs now and both needed a little extra voltage to be totally stable). But, in the end with a little voltage and a good HSF these combos rock.

[notoriousformula]

mdzcpa, ty so much!!!!

notor:P

[notoriousformula]

Originally posted by mdzcpa
The 2500's are indeed good overclockers and use the same multiplier as the XP 3200. The only difference is the 2500 runs at 166mhz, and the 3200 runs at 200mhz.

Does this mean that the 2500 is really just a 3200 set to run at a lower bus speed?.....no. Although the 2500s are great overclockers, they are not validated to run at 3200 speeds at stock voltages. I've had a few 2500 Bartons I've used to build client rigs, and all have them have been able to hit 3200 speeds, but it always required at least a little extra voltage.

All that said, I think an XP 2500 barton makes a great choice. The price is exceptional and the ability to up the multiplier and overclock it easily are great features. Adding the voltage is not a big deal if you have a good HSF.

I've found that the NF7 is a great board (and my favorite) for running with the Barton. The new 2.0 revision handles both the 166mhz and 200mhz Bartons very well. Be aware of one thing with the NF7 and the Barton 2500 though. With the current official BIOS, the NF7 will recognize the 2500 to be a 3200! This is because they have the same multipliers and there is a quirk in the BIOS. Now, before you get all excited, understand that you will likely need to add some voltage to get the thing stable at 3200 speeds even though it pops up as a 3200 automatically on the NF7 that way. (I've built two of these rigs now and both needed a little extra voltage to be totally stable). But, in the end with a little voltage and a good HSF these combos rock.

hey mdzcpa ;) i'm a dumbo and i know very less about AMD computers:confused3 could be more specific, when you say " in the end with a little voltage and a good HSF these combos rock"
i mean where can i go and set more power to the O/Ced CPU :confused: and what is HSF :blonde:

with kindest regards

notor :P

[mdzcpa]

You can adjust the amount of voltage the CPU gets from the BIOS of the mobo. Sometimes you need to add voltage to overclock the CPU.

HSF = heat sink fan

you need a good HSF unit to overclock cause of the heat

[notoriousformula]

Originally posted by mdzcpa
You can adjust the amount of voltage the CPU gets from the BIOS of the mobo. Sometimes you need to add voltage to overclock the CPU.

HSF = heat sink fan

you need a good HSF unit to overclock cause of the heat

wow :eek: that was so quick!

thanks mdzcpa ;)

notor:P

[mdzcpa]

anytime my friend:)

[notoriousformula]

Originally posted by mdzcpa
anytime my friend:)

thanks again mike, tomorrow i'm goin to return the kingston ram and gettin the 256 CORSAIR(X2) @400mhz (read a lot about it :P )

regards

notor:P