1046 no enough of a pump

[ralf_c]

hello everybody

i'm new to ninjacool, this place is great for learning water cooling stuff , thanks to admins and members for the ore.

my problem is that i have a 3/8 tubing setup with a maze 3 and the z chip blocks from danger den with a chevy chevette heater core and an eheim 1046 and my temps seem wrong, i suspect its because of my pump. the temps that i am getting right now are about 105 to 111 fharenheit. i plan on cooling my gpu with a block in the near future but from the looks of temps i am getting right now i will definitely have to upgrade my pump.

i want to buy an eheim 1250 or a hydor l30, i know the eheims have the best reputation but the hydor has a very agreeable price.

any thoughts

[Drake]

Yes, the 1046 may be choking the system, seeing as how there're two blocks.

I've heard a few cases where the hydor pump has worked just as it's supposed to but many more where leaks threatend sytems. There is also a Swiftech pump out that has a similar reputation, but with more success. To be safe, I'd go with a 1250, but if you think that the lower price makes the other pumps a viable option, then go for it.

[NorthernYankee]

Originally posted by ralf_c
. the temps that i am getting right now are about 105 to 111 fharenheit. i plan on cooling my gpu with a block in the near future but i will definitely have to upgrade my pump.


First off Welcome to LiquidNinjas

Second 40c - 43c temps are not that bad, depending on what your CPU is and if you are overclocking or not. Though the 1046 may be small its not that bad...if you do add the GPU block you will definately need a new pump.

Give us a bit more info and then we can help you.

--NY

[bigg]

the eheim 1250 is a bigg sucka. get the hydor l30. if sealed with silicone, it should be fine. it is also much smaller, so it will prolly fit in ur case.

[ralf_c]

can some one please tell me where exactly to seal the hydor l30 with silicone.

[bigg]

i think around the impellar cahmber just heard of it done, so that one can be run in a cramped case above a raid array and not leak

[Player0]

I'm not sure I'd upgrade the pump. The Eheim 1048 is perfectly fine for a small watercooling system like yours. Ive seen many systems using the 1048 pump with great success.

Is there a resevoir in this system? Have you gotten all the air bubbles out? What are your ambient temps, CPU speed and overclock, voltages. What kind of fan do you have on the radiator.

A larger pump may help temps. But, your temperatures arent that bad, and you might have problems elsewhere you'd want to address.

If you are going to get a larger pump, get the Eheim 1250. The Hydor is louder and less reliable.

[bigg]

p0, he has a 1046, not a 1048. a 1048 can work for a rad wb and pump sys with a t line, or a small diamerter sys (old model h202B), but a hydor l30 really the way 2 go. it is smaller and cheaper than the eheim, and can be submerged in a gladware container for noise reduction

[Player0]

Oh!...1046...ooh.

80GPH? Ick...new pump time. Why not get the 1048 then :)

[ralf_c]

sorry i couldn't post earlier,
player0 here are the answers to your questions:

no reservoir,bubbles are out, ambient temps are about 85f to 90f when cpu temps are arround 111f, ambient temps are about 68-79 when cpu temp is 105-109f ( at averagecpu usage), not oc'ed, fan on heater core is enermax 120mm variable speed at 1600 rpm with no fanshroud( i suspect the lack of a fanshroud is hurting the performance too)

i can't think of any other place in the wc sys where i might have problems, exept that i have antifreeze on the water but no water wetter.

[ralf_c]

i thought about the 1048 but i wan't a pump with some more gph because i will have 3 blocks in the near future and i also want the capacity to cool my hd about a month from now, all this plus some other stuff that i want comes with a budget because i need to start planing to buy a house( i am getting tired of paying rent)

the folks at danger den stand behin the hydor and just reasently thay emailed me recomending it, if its got issues that i can fix i will go for it but if i keep hearing that it is not reliable i will stay away from it and buy the eheim, although i hate pay such a high price for it

[bigg]

the hydor is an excelent, compact pump and has smal size combine with good price. u could get a 300+ gph pump, and use it for cpu. then use the 1046 for chipset and harddrive... just a thought

[bigg]

i'd assume innovatek HD blox??? then they and the nb will work cool with the 1046 and a miniaure 80mm BI micro, and the hydor l30 can cool a maybe tec and maybe tec gpu.

[bigg]

the swifty pump doesn't have a good reputaion, but it does have VERY similar specs and price to the hydor l30

[ralf_c]

thanks for the advice bigg. i had already thought about cooling the chipset and hd on a separate loop but not sure about it because i don't want to add more fans to the system. i will not opt for the innovatek hd block bacause its pricy and its not worth the money ( performance wise), the hd block that i will buy is the dteck hd block that sales for about 65 bucks.

the ideal setup that i want is one that can cool my cpu, gpu, chipset, and hd in series with a chevy chevette heater core efficiently. if can setup a wc sys that can cool all that still cool the cpu at or below 100f i will be satisfied

i have one more question to ask, does anyone know if the new gpu block from danger den can fit a geforce3, i not crasy about the older one

[bigg]

the reason i say that u should have to loops is that the eheim 1046 is a very good pump for chipsets and hds etc... it just doesn't cut it for cpu. it would be nice if u could reuse it to ur advantage. it would be good cuz a lot of NB blox are small and restrictive. the hd blox would also add restrictio to the line, so have two loops minimizes the restriction on the cpu loop, for cooler temps. also, the rad would provide more case ventilation, or use case ventilation that is already in place. for the fans, i assume u mean for quiet i hate noise and if u have two separate loops, u can have more fans, and each will cool less heat, so they can run at a lower voltage, thus being quieter.

[ralf_c]

maybe you're right bigg, i just had an idea that i will put to the test once i have all the componets. i think i can split the main loop( cpu & gpu) with t's or y's from there i can attach the split to the intake of my 1046, the 1046 will take that fluid and pump it in series to the chipset block then to hd block and finaly return the split to main loop, sounds fun i think i'll try it i have nothing to loose!
thanks big, anybody got any more sugestions

[bigg]

splitting it that way seems like a good, idea, but it will not work. thry it if u when u have all of the parts and u will see

[bigg]

for a second rad (on the 1046 loop), the swifty is $46, and the BI micro is $44 from DD. there basically, if not exactly the same thing and the swifty is purtier, and the dd is $2 cheaper