Which waterblock?

[CRowsey]

Swiftech MCW5000-P
or
Swiftech MCW462-UH?

Thanks in advance

[Cabal]

I say go with the Swiftech MCW5000, cause its the newest block swiftech makes.

Swiftech MCW5000
Core Technology: Patent pending Diamond-Pin Matrix© copper base plate for optimal heat transfer, and turbulent flow:
outperforms all previously released Swiftech water-blocks!

ya cant argue with that :p

[1cooldude]

Cabal, I saw your computer in the case gallery and had a couple of questions. Check your PM box.

Your hard to get a hold of.:D

[Cabal]

sorry i'm new to the boards and forget to check my pms, i sent email to you. hope it answers all your questions :D

[mdzcpa]

Hey CRowsey,

Welcome to LN:)

From the hip I'd say get the MCW5000. It promises better performance due to it's newer design. However, one thing to consider is the mounting mechanism. The MCW5000 mounts using the socket A tabs, while the MCW462-UH uses the 4 holes. If you have a mobo without the holes, or will be going to a board without them, then the MCW462-UH is a poor choice. On the other hand, if you are sticking with 4 hole mobos, then the mounting of the MCW462-UH is much better....you can get more pressure from the block onto the CPU die using the 4 holes. And block to die pressure is critical in performance terms.

Thnigs to think about:)

[Kill-Switch]

I'd say got for the MCW 5000 as it's the latest and, supposidly, the greatest.

Also I think the MCW5000 would be a better choice if eventually you wish to upgrade your system ... All you have to do is stick with a Socket A motherboard/processor and you have no worries. But if you went for the MCW462-UH you'd have to worry about making sure the holes are there to mount it.

Just my thoughts.

Note: I was faced with the same dilemma and opted for the MCW5000 :)

[SoccrSta@Sk00]

u think these waterblocks would work with the upcoming athlon opteron cpus?

[Player0]

Its hard to say, but from what Ive heard from the manufactuers, yes...with an optional bracket attachment, the waterblocks will work.

If that is a concern, id contact the manufacturers to make sure :)

[bigg]

the mcw-462UH:
first, it has a real mounting system with the 4 holes
second, it has the capability to run a pelt, which the mcw-500 would have to modified to do (unless an intel P4 (YUK:() was used)

[bigg]

i mean 5000 ... i do that alot

[1cooldude]

A lot of people are saying the MCW5000, but isn't the MCW462 UH better for non-pelt use? Wasn't the MCW5000 built for peltier use. I was told this was because of the way they are built.

[Kill-Switch]

Your assumption is wrong (as far as I know). The MCW5000 wasn't built specifically for pelt use. And in test carried out by Swiftech they show that the MCW5000 is better at cooling that the MCW 462-UH ... but only by a small margin because of the way it is designed. So think of the MCW5000 as a remodelled and improved MCW 462-UH.

One thing I shold bring to your attention is what kind of tubing (as in size and make) are you going to use with your system. See I choose the MCW5000-A but I can't use it just yet as I need 1/2" barbed connectors as the quick connect fittings are too small for my 1/2 inch ID tubing :(

The MCW 462-UH, however, has 1/2 inch barbed connectors built into it.

[CRowsey]

I'm not sure what tubing really =/ Havn't had a chance to look and figured I'd order them and any fittings I needed after I had everything else I needed.

I've got the via-aqua 1300 pump
bay res reservior
BIX

And now shopping around for a waterblock then later when my wallet will let me a block for my gpu and when I get my new motherboard I'll go ahead and probably get a new pump and a chipset block.

I'm not really sure of a god place to get the tubing or really what kind to get. I've heard that some of the tubing would eat away when using the dye's thus tygon would be the best to get... is this true? and if so where can I get it? Also which size? how much etc.

I appreciate all the help I'm just now plunging into watercooling after taking air cooling to the extreme and almost going deaf. :cool3:

[lechumbl]

Hi CRowsey,

"I've heard that some of the tubing would eat away when using the dye's thus tygon would be the best to get... is this true?"

I run dye in my three systems and have never had a problem, or have never heard of what you speak of. The dye is not caustic, therefore will not eat away the tubing.

BUT, using cake coloring will cause the tubing and pump to clog, so don't use that.

Take care..........

[CRowsey]

I run dye in my three systems and have never had a problem, or have never heard of what you speak of. The dye is not caustic, therefore will not eat away the tubing.

Reassuring, thanks!

Also I just came across the Black Ice II labeled "New!" it isn't better than the BIX is it?

[Player0]

I think the BI2 is twice as long as the BIX. It may work better, but may not fit in all systems :)

[Kill-Switch]

Isn't the BIX2 basically 2 BIXs stuck together? LOL

[CRowsey]

It looks like its 2 stuck together... its almost $10 cheaper as well, oh well I don't really care to buy another 120mm fan anyway :)

[bigg]

the black ice 2 has 3/8" fittings, and cannot pump as much heat as the BIX. it is true that the mcw-426UH would look to be better at straight, and the mcw-500 at tec, but in practice, they acutlly have the mountings and hardware for the opposite, with the mcw-5000 not havein a tec unit. the MCW-462U, which is disconinued used 3/8" OD quick connects, and 5/16" ID tubing. the UH has 1/2" barbs. the mcw-5000 has 1/2" OD quick connects, 3/8" ID, but has an option for a barb

[1cooldude]

Originally posted by bigg
the black ice 2 has 3/8" fittings, and cannot pump as much heat as the BIX. it is true that the mcw-426UH would look to be better at straight, and the mcw-500 at tec, but in practice, they acutlly have the mountings and hardware for the opposite, with the mcw-5000 not havein a tec unit. the MCW-462U, which is disconinued used 3/8" OD quick connects, and 5/16" ID tubing. the UH has 1/2" barbs. the mcw-5000 has 1/2" OD quick connects, 3/8" ID, but has an option for a barb

ah ha! I knew it. I was right.:p It doesn't really matter though.:)

[Maynard]

I would like to water cool my dual athlon. Any ideas on how I should plumb it, and what max mhz I should expect out of my dual 1200 mps

[dicki]

welcome to the board :)

thats a big subject... probably best to start it in a new thread but very briefly... allways plumb water cooling circuits in series, the temperature of the water is consistant throughout the loop so you don't need to worry about the first cpu being cooler than the second, get a big radiator and a powerfull pump and a large resovoir and you'll have nothing to worry about.

secondly... expected clock??? can't say, too many factors i'm afraid... i'd be tempted to say around 200mhz because thats about the average but without knowing detailed specs i wouldn't like to guess

dicki

[bigg]

Originally posted by Maynard
I would like to water cool my dual athlon. Any ideas on how I should plumb it, and what max mhz I should expect out of my dual 1200 mps
i'm a fan of duallies, and hope to get one myself. u over @2cpu??? i am same name. ok, with an msi k7d master-l, u could be lookin @ mid 140s fsb (i assume the mps are 133 fsb), and with a iwill mpx2, u could get into the mid 150's, assuming ur pci devices can run that high. this is without any mult changes. PLUMB IN SERIAL