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Synthohol
08-06-2007, 02:32 AM
the people whom i absolutely despise only 1% lower than child molesters are those piece of crap dip shit c-sucking garbage that should have been aborted asshats that throw plastic bottles at concerts into the crowd.
every single last one of you should die slowly and painfully of the worst rotting painful cancer only after going through several bone marrow aspirates and spinal taps until you pray for your death but only to go through another painful wave of relentless excruciating pain again and again and again...

just got back from warped tour down at raceway park (I won tickets on WSOU 89.5 FM) and my kids were in the crowd and the trash was flying all around. when i went to the bamboozle tour i got hit in the head from a Gatorade bottle and almost needed a stitch or two.
my kids understood the risk and stood close to the stage but thankfully they didn't get hit.

what is wrong with some kids? do they think its cool to toss full, partially full and empty bottles into a crowd of kids? I got so mad for the second time at this i was glad i wasn't armed.

going to a concert isn't safe at all anymore. this makes synthohol sad:(
I've been too well over a hundred concerts in my life and it seems to have gotten worse over the past 2 or 3 years. i wish that my kids don't have to live through this increasing surge of violent behavior at public events.

for Christ's sake when i was their age, if someone stood on their seat in front of you, security would escort you out if you didn't get down. a mosh pit and crowd surfing would have gotten the national guard called in for riot control.
this shit is getting out of control nowadays!!

anyway, i just needed to vent so i can get some sleep tonight.
once again, thanks for the ear!


by the way, Killswitch Engage is still phenominal!

unacceptable_risk
08-06-2007, 08:21 AM
I remember thinking about this many years ago, when people were slam dancing at a Cure concert FFS. I thought great I slept in a carpark for front row tickets so I could get some aholes elbow in my mouth.
Seriously, I did the punk thing, and moshing seemed in place at a punk concert. But at some point, it just became some sort of norm. I swear people were moshing at a they might be giants gig I went to once.. I mean come on, "They might be giants???" What sort of brainless idiocy is that?

Now I'm a Knugget, and I can look after myself, but too many times now I have found myself spending most of a concert shielding the girl I'm with from clowns. I basically don't go to concerts anymore.

I guess were lucky, the bottle throwing thing hasn't spread here yet, and I'm glad about that. But overall, the levels of respect for others around has dropped in a noticable way. At the big festivals here, we have had lots of problems with crowd rushing. My partner is 5' nothing and was nearly crushed a few years ago by a wave of humanity as thousands of ppl rushed to get from one stage to the next so they could get prime spot up the front. From what I hear, ppl climbed over the top of the fallen, and one girl died in the crush.

Anyway on a more positive note, I broke my boycott a few months ago to see the Pixies live at a festival. Just about the whole crowd at that stage were in their 30's and I am glad to say it was a great vibe. People partied on, but no one was in any danger. I guess that suggests to me that the problem stems around brat teenagers. And seriously, some of the blame has to be proportioned to meth amphetamines.

Sorry to hear about your experiance today Synth, I hope concert promoters can/will find a way to keep concert goers safe.

KODE
08-06-2007, 11:20 AM
Sorry to hear that Synth, I hope you´re ok now :(.

I don´t know if this serves to soften how you´re feeling, but things in here in Brazil are lot worse, believe me.

A big hug for the Synth´s Family :)

KODE.

DAVE185
08-07-2007, 05:40 PM
I have to say, I loved your first paragraph.

At least it wasn't a rap concert. You didn't get shot at.

illmatik
08-07-2007, 07:57 PM
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Anyway on a more positive note, I broke my boycott a few months ago to see the Pixies live at a festival. Just about the whole crowd at that stage were in their 30's and I am glad to say it was a great vibe. People partied on, but no one was in any danger. I guess that suggests to me that the problem stems around brat teenagers. And seriously, some of the blame has to be proportioned to meth amphetamines.

Sorry to hear about your experiance today Synth, I hope concert promoters can/will find a way to keep concert goers safe.


Pixies!!! Yesssss! Seen em twice since the reunion and many times before. Never an incident ever, I guess these fans are a different breed.

Back to Synth's point, I was quite shocked by the garbage tornadoes of late as well. Like both Fara and Synth, I've been to some extremely aggressive concert lineups in my 31 years and look back in shock at the behavior of today's concert goers. We're talking prong, pantera, and sepultura @ Nassau, Monsters of Rock @ Orange Country speedway, Anthrax & DRI @ the chance, G N' R @ various venues, etc etc, the list goes on. Suprisingly enough, Axl would stop the show until the front row crowd crushing stopped, the singers/crew of many bands would actually hose down the crowd on hot, dusty nights @ the OC speedway, I've seen Mike Ness of Social Distortion jump into the crowd, chase down, and beat up drunken/aggressive fans who've shoved, hit, or trampled women and children.

The first time I experienced flying storms of crap was @ the first K-Rock Dysfunctional Family Picnic at Jones Beach. Being all-ages, there were plenty of large plastic bottles with tops to hurl, but the weaponry of the evening was in the form promotional handouts like large glow sticks courtesy of Intel, sharp edged keychains promoting playstation were just a few things. In the peak of a Little Man Disease attack and overall infinite wisdom, Fred Durst actually encouraged and orchestrated a mass deluge of promotional items on his count. It was total chaos.. My friends and I luckily avoided most of the projectiles, although the outside vendor area/gate after the show were as bloodstained as a civil war battleground.

The only satisfaction from that utter idiocracy was that Durst misjudged the arm strength of his young fans, the ocean wind that wasn't exactly in his favor at that point in time, and the blinding, disorienting brightness of a sky full of freshly cracked multicolor glow sticks. Very tough-guy like, he dropped his mic and hit the deck helplessly while the overwhelmed security staff were trying to manage the chaos their client instigated.

Awwwwwwwrrrrggh you wanna play that game b#$ch? :)

Farabomb
08-07-2007, 08:16 PM
Pantera had to be one of the most viloent shows I've been to. Even then there was a different feel about it. People were just getting their argression out. If they saw someone down in the pit they'd help them out, not stomp on them.

I'm from the old school "alternitive", back when it really was the alternitive to the shite played on the radio. I can totally see Mike Ness doing that. It never was about kicking the shite out of someone in the pit. Now that it's mainstream the core feeling is gone. Now you have caveman jocks going to the shows looking to hurt someone. I want my scene back. :(

illmatik
08-07-2007, 08:38 PM
I've pretty much written off festivals these days to the point that it would take certain bands to reform or come back from the beyond to put me in a festival environment.

unacceptable_risk
08-07-2007, 10:49 PM
Pantera had to be one of the most viloent shows I've been to. Even then there was a different feel about it. People were just getting their argression out. If they saw someone down in the pit they'd help them out, not stomp on them.

I'm from the old school "alternitive", back when it really was the alternitive to the shite played on the radio. I can totally see Mike Ness doing that. It never was about kicking the shite out of someone in the pit. Now that it's mainstream the core feeling is gone. Now you have caveman jocks going to the shows looking to hurt someone. I want my scene back. :(

I've pretty much written off festivals these days to the point that it would take certain bands to reform or come back from the beyond to put me in a festival environment.

Yes, yes and yes. I just can't agree more with the above.

And illmatik, seeing the Pixies live was a dream come true for Brisbane. They have never been out here before, and I gave up seeing them play many years ago. They played a 30+ song set, and nailed every note in every song. The crowd sang pretty much every word as one, and I have never experianced anything like it. Kim had tears in her eyes at some points, and Frank rocked out hard. The few kids in the crowd seemed in awe of the show, and I felt like a kid all over again.

illmatik
08-07-2007, 11:34 PM
Yes, yes and yes. I just can't agree more with the above.

And illmatik, seeing the Pixies live was a dream come true for Brisbane. They have never been out here before, and I gave up seeing them play many years ago. They played a 30+ song set, and nailed every note in every song. The crowd sang pretty much every word as one, and I have never experianced anything like it. Kim had tears in her eyes at some points, and Frank rocked out hard. The few kids in the crowd seemed in awe of the show, and I felt like a kid all over again.

I'm so glad you reached The Palace of the Brine as you've been waiting on that Motorway to Roswell for far too long!! I think they're playing better than they ever have after the hiatus and any true Pixies fan should bolt out to the closest show before the magic is gone. It was the same here, the youngins with good taste or elder referrals really got a schoolin' from Black Francis & Co. To me, all of the stuff being pushed on to the main and off-main streams these days is the same old poop. I mean, they even look the same!!!!! The buyers also seem so numb that you can scramble songs and photos from different bands onto a CD and confuse the actual artists about who is who and who wrote what.

I must say in the recent months, I lumped one band into said pile and I shouldn't have. That band is Good Charlotte. I liked a song I heard and then delved more into their catalog and have been nothing but impressed with both the music and lyrical content.



To agree w/ fara, Pantera crowds can be pretty harsh, but most metalhead mosh fiends know what's too much and when someone needs help. The new scene has proven the 'strength/aggression' of the music does not dictate behavior. Maturity might also explain a lot as these new cookie-cutter {}-core bands are catering to younger crowds who for some odd reason have something to prove to their wristbanded counterparts also in attendance. I saw some retarded stuff happen at a vagrant records showcase that alkaline trio was headlining when one of the opening acts (forget who.. could it be killswitch engage or something?? dunno...) was playing a relatively slow LOVE SONG!!!

What happened to enjoying the music? If I feel the need to be physically aggressive with another human being, I can easily go to one of nyc's many underground fight clubs. I'd love to send some of these brats that way to learn the difference between music and mayhem.

Flybye
08-08-2007, 05:28 PM
This is why I gave up the clubbing scene. Booze & sharp objects just don't mix, and I got the scar to prove it.

Glad to hear you and your family were not seriously injured. Sharing this planet, we must learn to accept the fools around us, and the waste of resources that goes to their uneducated commonsenseless heads.

But in the end, it is not these people's fault. It is a combination of them and their parents. In a weird sort of way, I wished I had lived back in that era you described. Back in the day when your neighbor would spank your child if your child did something wrong in her house, and no one would even consider suing the other.

illmatik
08-10-2007, 12:54 AM
This is why I gave up the clubbing scene. Booze & sharp objects just don't mix, and I got the scar to prove it.

Glad to hear you and your family were not seriously injured. Sharing this planet, we must learn to accept the fools around us, and the waste of resources that goes to their uneducated commonsenseless heads.

But in the end, it is not these people's fault. It is a combination of them and their parents. In a weird sort of way, I wished I had lived back in that era you described. Back in the day when your neighbor would spank your child if your child did something wrong in her house, and no one would even consider suing the other.

My club experience has been positive for the most part. Ironically the electronic music I'm into is extremely hard and aggressive, but the enthusiasts are anything but. Plus dnb seems to cater to (when looking at the average age across the various genres) the older, professional clubgoer :) and the youngins in attendance are mature far beyond their years. With the exception of the 'massives', it's 21+, no overdoses, no stepping over the kiddies who spend transit/tolls/parking/$20-$40 entrance only to do so much K that they spend the evening passed out on the floor thing usually. I don't get it sometimes... If that's the desired result, you could just stay home, stream the event over the net, and be much more comfortable, not to mention save enough $$ to do it again the next day without the risk of being kicked, arrested, or being swept up and thrown in the dumpster..

thefoobagger
08-14-2007, 04:43 AM
heard the rant and it reminded me of this

http://my.break.com/media/view.aspx?ContentID=301721

be thankful imho lol :)