Finally fixing my bathroom/kitchen (no 56k at all)

[Synthohol]

Well for those of you who know my disaster right before the LAN party a year and a third ago, i am finally able to do something about it (if i want to stay married according to Mrs. Synth)

i have people coming tomorrow to remove 18' of chiminy from the kitchens old pot belly wood burning stove from 80 years ago which runs through the bathroom on the second floor and gets in the way of replacing pipes that leaked and near destroyed my new $35k kitchen below.

once its gone i am out of excuses to start the renovation so i will post pics along the way like i did with the emergency stall shower i installed in the basement.

this will interest some peeps here and others will not care either way so if those who care have any questions, ask away. i have been doing plumbing/construction for a few dozen years and enjoy sharing my knowledge.

Peace.

[WackyComputer]

Man time flies. I can't believe that it was back in May when you last posted about it.

I'm glad that you're getting it worked out.:)

[Flybye]

I'd like to see pics of the wood burning stove.

I love stuff like that :)

[DCMan]

i remember the emergency shower thread... thought that was great actually! I'll be interested in this one! :D

[Synthohol]

old stove was gone for over 40 years b4 i bought the house sadly.

[Synthohol]

pics of stage 1
removal of old chiminy...

cant get a speck of english out of the guys at the bottom but they break shit pretty good.
the one on the right just smashed his finger ;) :eek:

[Flybye]

Aww...that's a cute chimney!

Hey you ever been curious enough to try to get the original plans of the house from your county? Heck, some of those old documents even have some neat pics to go along with em.

[Synthohol]

was.... LOL
my house still has a couple working gas light fixtures, it was built before edison invented the lightbulb. much less before the polaroid ;)
my house is the second house built on the orchard, id be shocked if there were even blueprints on file.
the town cant even tell me how old my house is. i found newspapers from 1917 under the porch that was added years after the house was built.


my main support beams in the basement are rough cut 8x6 beams from trees cut off the plantation it was built on. my 2x4's are really 2x4". no processed lumber here :)

[DAVE185]

Hope this isn't a rude question, you can not awnser if you don't want.
I have been watching too many of those shows where you buy an old house and fix it up and sell it.

How much did you buy that house, and after you are done with the repairs, how much will it be worth. Again, I'm just curious, where I am living now, originally for 18k now worth somewhere around 250k+. Built in the early 1900s

[Synthohol]

bought for 90K, just appraised from the outside view only at 340k.
would be more if they saw the kitchen.
owned house for 10 years now.
almost a 400% ROI.
if i didnt have 3 kids in school here i would fix up more and sell for 420K.
they got just shy of a half a MIL for the house next door on the same lot size.
that house is a bit more elaborate inside.

house prices and paid prices are a matter of public record, i dont consider the question rude at all.
i plan on sinking about 3 grand on the bathroom potentially. doing 90% of the work myself the money is just for materials and fixtures.

[Farabomb]

Steve, do you remember what I said right before I went after the old kitchen with a baseball bat (and opening a gash in my hand, bleeding all over the place)? Something about fixing the bathroom before getting a pool and a new kitchen?

It took years but you finally listened. :)

[Synthohol]

having a "mens room" it the basement made it easy to ignore, i dont go there much.

[Synthohol]

ill post pics later but i took down all the plaster today with an axe and hammer.
the lathe i will use for kindling in the fireplace.

[unacceptable_risk]

With a house full of females, you stand to gain some serious points for finishing that bathroom :D

Hey I only know lathe as a machine that spins items for shaping with a sharp tool... but I gather its also the name for plaster backing?

[Synthohol]

its pronounced lath like in bath.

[illmatik]

Wanna come re-do mine next? My place is just a tad pre-war ;)

Hoping bathfitters can work some miracles for sure, cuz plumbers round here will do to my cornhole something I'd rather watch done to better looking ones on video:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:

[Mortaldragon]

haha wicked synth, good for you, i hope it all works out just remember to post some final pics, btw that is a massive bath tap you have on your old bath, that must fill up in 10 seconds

[Synthohol]

heres the pics so far. the wood is coming off today i think, the dust gave me a bit of blacklung this morning, i had the fan in one window and open window on the other so the dust cleared quickly as i made it but still.

also the post hole digger in the last pic made it real easy to bust down the plaster on the ceiling without a ladder.

[Mortaldragon]

haha wicked, i cant wait to see the final of this

[Synthohol]

90 minutes later ;)

[Mortaldragon]

what temperature is your weather where u are at the moment?? going to say u have no insualtion now lol

[Synthohol]

the house has no insulation anywhere except the kitchen which was redone.
walls are allways cold to the touch in winter, little by little that will change.
when we have enough $ to install new siding styrofoam insulation will be used under the siding.
double pane windows are on the first floor but not on the second (yet)

[Mortaldragon]

are there any companies in the US that do that insulation wall cavity filling, you might know it i think there is a name for it where basically they get a backwards hoover and make a small hole in your wall and pack it full of insualtion

[unacceptable_risk]

yeah its finely powdered paper thats treated with flame retardant. The name that springs to mind is Cool n Cozy, but thats probably a local co.

I've always been sus from a fire point of view, but I have seen tests where they can't light it with a blow torch. Just lately I have been thinking Pearlite as used in hydroponics, its tiny white pellets of expanded mineral material. People buy it off me to use in BBQ's.

BTW Luv the Avatar MD LMAO

[Flybye]

Hehe.

This is just so awesome. My aunt's house in Bethleham has those rough cut 2x4s on ther floor. Most of the house still uses those extremely old rotary light switches. Most of the interior is still using alot of vintage items. It's a shame the exterior is currently covered in vinyl preventing the house's true beauty from being shown.

She bought it for $100k and 3 months later someone offered nearly $200k for it. Apparently, there has been an antique boom in that area.

BTW, she lives a few blocks away from an old church and meeting centre where even George Washington himself use to attend. I also saw the church's cemetary with tombstones dating back to the revolution.

She lives within walking distance of the Moravian College which was founded in 1742.

[Synthohol]

nothing says i love you like breaking a concrete floor.

[unacceptable_risk]

Hahaha was that a log splitter that got the job? Thats going to be fun next time you go to split logs lmao.

[Synthohol]

why buy a sledge hammer? LOL
most of it was done with a 16oz claw hammer, more control.
i gotta say though my wet-dry vac has been a champ, the tile is porcelin and will cut you as deep as a chainsaw real quick so i but it all up in small chunks, vacumme it up and dump it right into a thick plastic bag, no touching :)
now i gotta figure out how to get the bathtub out by myself to get to the pipes underneath.

i also nailed up sheets of plywood in the kitchen to catch the mess and plastic bags to minimize dust. it works so far!!

[unacceptable_risk]

Damm, is that thing enameled cast iron? I would try to get it on its end and use a movers trolley, like a fridge.

[Synthohol]

once i move the waterpipes tomorrow(?) i will tip it on its side onto a sheet of plywood with plastic sheeting so i can just slide it into the hall. yes its cast iron all 3-400LBs of it im sure.

[DAVE185]

the house has no insulation anywhere except the kitchen which was redone.
walls are allways cold to the touch in winter, little by little that will change.
when we have enough $ to install new siding styrofoam insulation will be used under the siding.
double pane windows are on the first floor but not on the second (yet)

Your heating bill must be a b****, at least its been an unusually warm winter this year.

[Synthohol]

my util bil is 4-500/mo gas and electric
good thing my wife works too huh?
if i wasnt so selfish and have 8 pcs running full bore i can get utils under 300.

[Farabomb]

No worries Steve, I'll come over and the tub will fall through the floor. No hernia and you'll be able to get to the pipes easily. :)

[Synthohol]

no doubt :rolleyes:

[Synthohol]

shut off valves in!
now the bathroom is isolated.

[Mortaldragon]

Synth i am lovin that furry toilet seat m8 lol, nothing better he he,

I used to do a bit of plumbing myself not anything serious guess you could call me an automatic tool box but i learnt enough to do odd jobs here and there.

I think once you have all the pics Synth we should do a tutorial, all we need is you standing there with a blow torch and that nightmare lead free solder of which i am sure you are already experiencing the joys of the non stick new solder lol.

[Synthohol]

i still have 12 rolls of 40/60 before the ban.
i used 95/5 though here.
the 40/60 i use on copper 2" and over and back it up with 95/5 on boilers and such.
for those who dont know the ratios mean (40% Tin - 60% Lead) and (95% Tin - 5% Antimony)
the 95/5 sucks it just dosent draw into the fittings like 40/60 does but i really clean the mating fittings good with emery cloth and use good acid flux.

[Farabomb]

Flux you.

[Mortaldragon]

yeh i just find that the new lead free no matter how much you clean the item first it wont stick it drives me mad lol, i think most people have created a stash to last them lol

[Synthohol]

well i havent been a plumber by trade in 16+ years or so but dad has UBER supplies when he retired, prolly 20k worth of materials and fixtures he still has that i suppose will be my inheritance:rolleyes:

its not too bad, it flows better with an acetylene torch but all i had was propane, my B tank is empty.

[Synthohol]

well now i know why the drain pipe leaked, and i found all my hair and a toothpaste cap.
the arrows point to the thin bottom of the pipe where the leaks started which began this epic story.

when i tried to snake out the pipe before the leak happened is what prolly caused the rust to dislodge and let the pipe leak.
btw, a sawzall is your best friend, dont buy a home without one :)

[DCMan]

sawzall?

[Flybye]

WOW dood. Incredible the amount of hair there LOL and the deposits around it.

So what are you supposed to occasionally pour down the drain that is septic safe and can clear out your pipes?

[Player0]

I thought it was a peanut butter cup at first! :D

You know, one of those white chocolate ones or something ;)

[unacceptable_risk]

Yeah its amazing what goes on inside pipes over time. Anyone who ever rented a place with terrible water pressure will appreciate this story.

I once lived in such a place, owners wouldn't spend a cent on it, etc. We had a garden tap right at the front, the first tap on the line to the street. It would barely dribble, and one day I thought bugger this, there must be something stuck in it. So I went and got a small hammer and gave it a tappity tap. (Cough!!) A huge chunk of rust spat out, and the water ran about twice as fast... Now a strong dribble lol. So I thought awesome, I know what to do. Tappity tappity I went further and further along the old pipe.. It coughed up heaps of rusty material, and the water flow got better with every tap... until eventually, the pressure dropped very suddenly.

Yep, I had tapped a gaping hole in the pipe lmao. Plumber was called lol.

When the old pipe came out, it was inch pipe, but with a hole in the middle that was about 3mm average. No wonder we got such awful pressure.

[Player0]

BTW, if your solder isn't sticking, more heat will help :)

There's always PVC. Its being used a lot for hot / cold feeds now.

[Synthohol]

BTW, if your solder isn't sticking, more heat will help :)
very true!
...it flows better with an acetylene torch but all i had was propane, my B tank is empty.

i cant think of a practical reason you should know that being a programmer:)
kudos T!

[Mortaldragon]

damn synth is that actually a drainage pipe, i am suprised any drainage at all got through that, that toothpaste cap is a hero holding in there all that time lol

[Player0]

Oh, I do a lot of electronics work too, so I know all about solder :)

[Mortaldragon]

what is the latest synth you got some more pics???

[Synthohol]

not yet, waiting for the whirlpool tub to be delivered so i know the rough-in measurements

[Mortaldragon]

alright mr posh lol sounds wicked ..... sorry little wee bit of jealousy struck then

[Synthohol]

being im saving 4000.00 in labor by doing it myself its justified ;)
besides i did get like 1300.00 from the insurance company since the leak was covered under my policy and the tub is under 700.00!!
the tile is the most expensive thing in a bathroom, real tile not that plastic tenament stuff.
cant wait to price that out!!

[Mortaldragon]

yeh i now the stuff you are talking about, we are looking to change our bathroom however it is floor to ceiling tiles most of which are on plasterboard and would be impossible to get off so the only option is to tile on tile which wont be fun

[Synthohol]

that will trap moisture and fall off, best bet... bust it out and put up new sheetrock with the green paper on it (waterproof/resistant/antimildew), its a mess but your tape and spackle and sanding won't have to be perfect to tile it again!!
if you try to tile over it i guarantee it will start to fall off within a year. its too heavy on a wall.

[Mortaldragon]

lol we are moving house soon so hopefully it can fall off for the next people.........i hate people like me

[DCMan]

Isnt that something a survey should pick up? I dont know, ive never bought a house before, but I was under the impression that is, along with structural stuff, the kind of thing they look for?

[Mortaldragon]

i have no idea lol

[unacceptable_risk]

Haha, yeah its the sort of thing a good building inspector should find, but a bodgy one might miss depending on how well you do it. But it sounds like a bugger of a job getting it all neat and straight.

[WackyComputer]

I hope you haven't done the tile yet.
Check this out!
http://flickr.com/photos/toxickaty/tags/gamejunkie/

[Player0]

Hahaha! I LOVE THAT! Im sooo doing that in my bathroom!!

[Mortaldragon]

i havent done it yet but i am certainly doing it now

[unacceptable_risk]

That looks great. And you could use something like an icon editor to plan just about any picture the easy way lol.

[Synthohol]

ok, more progress today, took up 80% of the floor.
cant love my wet/dry vac enough. i cleaned and vacummed after every square foot of demolition, nice and neet:)
btw, i broke the tub in little bits and tossed them out the window. cost me 250. to have the debris hauled away as of b4 these pics, now i have another 15 bags of crap, thats like another 150 bucks im sure.

once i have completed the demolition and put in new PVC drain pipes i have saved 3600.00 total by doing it myself.
the estimates i got for demo and re-pipe were all in the 3500-4000 range so doing it myself is alot of work but now i can choose to not be frugal with the makeover. i still have 5 grand i borrowed to complete the bathroom.

[Player0]

Oh man thats some horrible work right there, chippin all that stuff out :D

Looks good tho!

[Mortaldragon]

what is a foot tub is that the base to a shower??

[Synthohol]

:rofl:
it said 5 foot tub, 5.5 foot tub and 6 foot tub, i was scaling out the room for different length and width tubs. the blue marker lines gave definition to the layout and where the door would hit. we may reverse the door for more entry width to the room. the vanity goes on the left upon entry with the tub on the right so i had to see how far the door will open into the room.

the door allways hit the tub so "its time for a change" [/peter brady]

[Player0]

You have to reverse the door, that way its easier to pee with the door open :D

[Mortaldragon]

You have to reverse the door, that way its easier to pee with the door open :D

true to every man on this earth lol

[Synthohol]

well i actually got some work done.
i replaced both windows with new double pane glass ones, i am starting to fit the drain pipes (dry fit, measure twice cut once) and also you can see the void in between the joists i have to fill. im using 3/4" plywood to make up the hollow so the final sheet of plywood will have alot of support and solidity instead of just nailing to the beams which were cut on an angle for the concrete origianally.

i figured i will build up the gaps, saw off the top inch of angled beam and fill in all the seams/gaps with cement so there wont be creaking and have tremendous strength.
i cant wait to tile it all, we are going with the original hexagon tiles for the floor like what i had to bust up, and subway tile for the walls. inside the tub/shower area i might go for a bit more extravagent in design, i dont know yet.

the one pic of where the PVC pipe ties into the cast iron stack is a tight fit. originally the old galvonized piping was easy to manipulate as far as bending. PVC is easy to bend only in the longer pipe, the fittings have very little play to get the angle just right. plumbing code insists on 1/4" of pitch per foot of drain pipe for proper draining and the 2" PVC im using is cutting it real close. i may have to switch with 1 1/2" pipe if it dosent work out.

any how, im off to cut more plywood. there is still tons of other shit to do like the steam pipe for instance, i have to replace it with copper so i have to tear down a portion of the kitchen ceiling paneling i put up to tie into it and i have to do it before i finish the rough floor.

the first pic is the whirlpool tub and a sample of the subway tile i mean. i wish the greay box wasnt there but its all i found.
the rest of the pics are just progress stuff.

the area in red is what gets trimmed off. alot of work even though it looks simple.

[Synthohol]

ok!
looks like my plan is working, i trimmed off the 1/2" of angle on the top of the beams and its nice and flat now. not level though but neither is anything in this house!

[Synthohol]

now if the girls in this house could live without the 2nd commode for a week i would have the floor done.
well im done for this weekend, time to plan the next several tasks.
of course im winging it ;)

[Snowman]

Nice work:thumbsup:

[Synthohol]

thanx Bill, i'm sore as hell now and i just pulled out my 17th splinter:)

[Mortaldragon]

lol that is looking wicked synth, so what you doing for showers and stuff at the moment whilst all of that is going on??

[sadako1]

You know what those Americans are like, MD - there's probably a bathroom for every member of the family! The girls in his house are probably tearing their hair out at the thought of having to share a bathroom with another family member ;)

[Synthohol]

http://liquidninjas.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=11482

i built a shower in the basement in may of 2005:)

[Mortaldragon]

You know what those Americans are like, MD - there's probably a bathroom for every member of the family! The girls in his house are probably tearing their hair out at the thought of having to share a bathroom with another family member ;)

LMAO i know what you mean lol

http://liquidninjas.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=11482

i built a shower in the basement in may of 2005:)

Ahh see forward thinking lol so how much longer do you reckon it would take i guess u are just grabbing any spare time

[Synthohol]

soup to nuts to tile i could finish it all in 60-75 hours by myself but having only the weekends to work and thats not including going to sports stuff my daughter is cheering/stomping at.
i already warned the family i see about 3-4 days with no toilet upstairs so i can do the floor proper without obsticles.

next floor step is finishing drain, pouring about 2" of cement to level out the room, adhere cement board to the floor for a great surface and then tile and grout.

[unacceptable_risk]

Looking good mate. Bet you can't wait to see it done, so you can plan other things for your spare time.

[Mortaldragon]

so it is all round yours for a bathroom warming party when it is done lol

[DCMan]

I dont even want to think about that...

[Mortaldragon]

lol i only realised what i had wirtten after i submitted it lol......sounds well dodgy lol

[Synthohol]

i ran 2 electric lines yesterday, one for the whirlpool and the other for the lights and outlets.
ordered the tile today for the floor. approx 60 sq ft. less than 500.00
the wife is beginning to realise the toilet has to go away for at least a week and she didnt burst into flames.... weird!

[Mortaldragon]

christ what you going to do without a toilet??

[WackyComputer]

Poop in the sink.

[Player0]

Dont encourage him.

[DCMan]

And please dont post pictures.

[Synthohol]

a few members here know and have used the other toilet in my basement.
also if it got desperate we have a litter box he he:)

[Mortaldragon]

lmao i am sure that your wife will be very happy with that

[Farabomb]

You've never met her. She's rarely happy. :)

[unacceptable_risk]

Hahaha, what is it with women and frowns? Don't they know frowning will give them wrinkles?

[Mortaldragon]

dont get me started, i rang my girlfriend after martial arts last night and got a bollocking becasue apparently i had done something wrong that i didnt know i did and becasue i didnt know what i had done that made it worse because i apparently would of done it intentionally.........grrrrrrrrr and then my kind father reminds me of the phrase 'women.....cant live with them, cant live without them'.........that made me feel a whole lot better

[Synthohol]

I knocked out alot of work lately, i moved water lines, built out a wall 3 1/2 inches, put down the other 2 layers of plywood for the floor, then used a concrete backer board (not the normal 1/2" shitty crumble kind) but this cool stuff like concrete paneling!
also mounted lights and am in the process of hanging sheetrock in the whole room.
man my arms are pumped and sore as hell. lotsa holding up sheetrock and using a heavy drill for 5000 screws!!!

good times..good times.. ;)

ill post some pics later!

[Synthohol]

well 2 months later and nothing is screwed down yet but i have made progress!!

[Flybye]

Ok...please tell me more about that sink. It looks beautiful. :)

[unacceptable_risk]

Starting to really take shape there mate. Keep it up, your close to crossing the finishline. :)

[Synthohol]

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100531315


and this mirror

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100531319

[Synthohol]

btw, KILZ is some wicked primer, thick like duck snot but dries pretty good.
great for hiding crayon and stuff and is sealing the mildew resistant greenback sheetrock very well.
i got regular semi-gloss paint but now i remember there is bathroom paint that is also mold mildew and water resistant. hmm, decisions...

[unacceptable_risk]

I've used that mould/mildew paint on a few indoor gardening projects. Pretty impressive stuff.

[Mortaldragon]

M8 this has taken you months lol how is it all going you seeing a light at the end of the tunnel yet?

[Synthohol]

btw II

the white on the walls in the pics isnt primer, i gave the sheetrock a skin coat of plaster then sanded smooth to avoid that "orange peel" look and will match the plaster & lathe of the rest of the house.

[Synthohol]

Great news! I want to die...

seriously, so after getting up the waines coating and installing the valve for the water supply to the toilet the pipe pulled out of the elbow INSIDE THE WALL! %^#@!(&!!!!!!
so with a hammer plyers and a drill i had to bust it open to repair the pipes. the solder joint held water pressure for a month but a little stress while turning a threaded fitting and sploff, here i am.

[Flybye]

Man I am lovin that new sink. :)

Are those wall panels real wood or that synthetic stuff?

[Synthohol]

the real splintery thing:)
its helpful they come in 3" planks that have tongue and groove so coverup will be a snap.
its still a pain in the ass though, i used liquid nails to hold them to the wall.

[Mortaldragon]

ahhhh m8 i feel for you i hate it when things happen like that, you almost want to walk away but to be fair i dont think your family would be too happy with you lol

[Player0]

Ouch! Damn it was just starting to look good too.

[Synthohol]

i didnt let it hold me back!!
at least half the room looks good :)

[Mortaldragon]

That bath looks kinda uncomfortable at the moment lol.

[DCMan]

no its one of those auto-massagers... ;)

[Synthohol]

yeah, its a thousand dollar whirlpool tub. (thank you state farm insurance co.) i left the cardboard on it so it dont get scratched and my son wont draw on it with a permanant marker. at least until i can have some bubbles up my bum first!!

[Synthohol]

roughed in the anti-scald tub faucet this week at least:)

[Player0]

Anti scald tub?? How do you get the hair off the cats then??

[WackyComputer]

Under the sea just started playing in my head for some reason.

[unacceptable_risk]

Anti scald tub?? How do you get the hair off the cats then??

Flame?

[Synthohol]

Under the sea just started playing in my head for some reason.
i got that!!

[unacceptable_risk]

went over my head like an aeroplane. Was it the Homer version? "There will be no frustrations, only friendly crustaceans."

[DCMan]

went over my head like an aeroplane.

Went even higher over mine.... ;)

[Flybye]

Ok I'll be the first to ask if it hasn't been asked already...

Why has it taken over a year to fix your bathroom? :P Where the mexicans out for Cinco de Mayo that long? LOL.

[Synthohol]

this coming june will be 3 years without a bathroom, i have a patient wife.
just didnt have the money or time to fix it, now we do (in small installments ;) )

wacky meant this... http://youtube.com/watch?v=xa-aaEatLnM

[Flybye]

Ahh ok. Just thought there was something hidden you didn't tell us. Like finding a dead body or 50yr old murder weapons, and the police were over investigating everything for a year. ;) :D

One time, I actually DID find an Uzi & a shotgun in my attic 10 something yrs ago. They were completly rusted out, but they certainly had some age & history to them. Your house being as old as it is, I'm sure you always find something interesting in them walls like the old gas switch. :)

[DCMan]

I wish I had gas in my house... Electrcity is expensive!

[unacceptable_risk]

Its been an epic adventure. Will be worth the wait when its done. But Synth.. not sure patient is the right word for your partners understanding.

[Synthohol]

almost there, i set the tub in cement over the weekend hooked up the drain and now everyone has tried the whirlpool tub except me. now to work on the sink and wall(s).

[Synthohol]

sink fully done, tub is 75% done, i need to run a showerhead and put the last walls up but things are looking up. ive gotten an ultimatum from Mrs. Synth....no LAN parties until the bathroom is 105% done so the pressure is on! he he..
pics to follow

[Mortaldragon]

I wish I had gas in my house... Electrcity is expensive!

m8 my new apartment is like that we have no gas it is all electric under floor heating and water heater, i guess the only reason i like it is because i only have one bill coming in other than the water instead of waiting for a gas bill aswell.

Nice to hear you are almost getting there synth, should be long now eh

[DCMan]

m8 my new apartment is like that we have no gas it is all electric under floor heating and water heater, i guess the only reason i like it is because i only have one bill coming in other than the water instead of waiting for a gas bill aswell.
Yeah true - but I reckon I'd rather have 2 bills that came to less than one huge one! Electricity costs a fortune, and I only have storage heaters and fan heaters! Although, I got my bill for the last 3 months today, and we've managed to reduce it by over £150 from the same time last year.

The main problem with my house is that its a coupla hundred years old and the walls aren't good for containing heat - and combine that with a flat roof, with no insulation, and its makes it a nightmare for heating!

[Synthohol]

get a good humidifier, the added moisture in the air will help heat and retain the heat in your house/apt. plus it keeps the winter static at bay.

[Synthohol]

progress, these wil be tiled boxes in the wall for shampoo and shit.
dont ask me what the deal was with the shutter on the camera, some wierd setting on the dial..must have slipped from auto.

[Synthohol]

some tile in.
the kids used special paint and glaze that got baked in the oven so it is in the tile forrever.

[Synthohol]

well 6 months later i did manage to get some done, lots of odds and ends.
yes girls live here, can you tell by the pads and the sink debris?

[Cabal]

very nice, glad to see i'm not the only one still working on 1+ year bathroom remodel. I can't seem to bring myself to finish mine, i use the other bathroom and its only me so i'm just used to not having it. Besides there always seems much better things to do with the time or the money. also just noticed the strange placement on the shower head, or more so the fact that you have a window just above your faucet. must be related to the fact your house is ancient.

[Synthohol]

yup, in the 30's there was a claw foot tub im sure. then in the late 50's a regular tub. now a whirlpool tub and i was going to reroute the showerhead to the right side wall i added but never got around to it, ive only had 3 years to do it ;)
thats the other reason i tiled in the new window, the old wood moulding rotted.
personally i wanted to just put 6" glass blocks in place of the window to truly waterproof it but the wife wanted a real window. you know who won that debate ;) so i have a viynyl coated double pane window in there that will be grouted in. if i get 10 years out of it before the wall starts sucking in the water ill be happy. there will be a plastic curtain there to help as well.

[Cabal]

yea windows in a shower area, really stupid idea that alot of houses had when they were contructed, i helped my father redo his masterbath and we put those frosted glass bricks where the window was really makes it easy to clean and theres no way water can get in. I have sorta skipped my bathroom and went onto my masterbedroom instead and now that its done i just claim that i'm broke so that i can enjoy it a little before the next project starts :P

[Synthohol]

Here-Here :beerm8s: